Schukers are covered by these sites: <http://www.mtaonline.net/~lylerose/> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/schuckerboats/> <http://schuckerboats.blogspot.com/> I notice Bruce Van Sant still has his "Tidak Apa" for sale at: <http://www.thornlesspath.com/forsale.htm> Chris Byer Cathedral City