T&T: Confiscating laptops
Ownyacht at aol.com
Ownyacht at aol.com
Sat Aug 2 21:58:25 EDT 2008
Hogwash.
R. Lee
In a message dated 8/2/2008 8:26:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hqnp43 at yahoo.com writes:
Exactly!
----- Original Message ----
From: C. Marin Faure
<cmfaure at earthlink.net>
To: trawlers-and-trawlering at lists.samurai.com
Sent:
Saturday, August 2, 2008 6:58:47 PM
Subject: T&T: Confiscating laptops
>I'm
wondering if list members are actually experiencing equipment
seizure, or
massive copying of data from boat devices?..... What say
the list?
It's
common in this increasingly polarized and paranoid country for
everyone to
assume the worst about this sort of thing. So the image
people have is of
Customs and Immigrations folks at the border
crossings and POEs just itching
to get their hands on your laptop,
mobile phone, and iPod. Just like
everyone assumed that the DHS
would be swooping down on every citizen
demanding to see their
library card so they could check library records to
see what books
they were reading, or listening in on every soccer mom's "HE
said,
and then SHE said, and then HE said" conversation. When in fact none
of this ever happens. DHS, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the SPCA
could
give a rat's ass about what's on your or my laptop. They
aren't interested
in what's in your iTunes library or looking at the
photos you took on your
last cruise.
What they ARE interested in seeing is if there is incriminating
evidence on the laptop, phone, etc of someone suspected of or under
investigation for being involved in terrorism, drug or people
smuggling, etc
. Back in Elliot Ness's day they could examine your
bank statements and
look at your phone records, and so far as I'm
aware the country didn't get
its knickers in a twist about that.
Technology has come a long way since
then and with almost everything
being done electronically now, it makes no
sense not to give the
folks charged with upholding the law the ability to
gather the
evidence they need to uphold it. If someone stole your identity
and
emptied your savings account and then headed for Canada or Mexico
it'd
be kind of nice if the folks at the border, who may have notice
of this
person's record of doing this sort of thing, could snag their
laptop, fire
it up, check out the financial files, and lo and behold
there's all the
account information he stole, including yours.
A lot of people in the boating
club we belong to have taken trips
into Canada in the last couple of years.
I have not heard one
account where entry into Canada or back into the US has
been anything
other than routine. But then none of the people in our club
are
involved (so far as I know) in smuggling drugs, laundering money,
trading in illegal aliens, or transporting improvised explosive devices..
If
you're involved in some sort of illegal activity then, yeah, it's
a bummer
they can take your laptop and look at the files. If you're
not then it's
almost certain that nobody is gonna give a hoot in hell
about your laptop,
your phone, or your library card.
____________________
C. Marin Faure
GB36-403 "La Perouse"
Bellingham, Washington
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