T&T: 1987 Peterborough power cruiser dilemma

[Garrett Lambert]

Hi Mervyn

Ah, the rot's much more extensive than just in the stringers. The problem is 
that once you start to take things apart, you're almost certainly going to 
find other issues, so where do you stop?

Now you're down to determining if the boat's worth repairing. From your 
first posting, unless you want to do the work yourself - and it's a big, 
ugly job - the answer appears to be negative.

Cheers, Garrett



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carr, Mervyn" <mcarr@zenon.com>
To: "Garrett Lambert" <garrettlambert@shaw.ca>; 
<trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: 1987 Peterborough power cruiser dilemma


Thanks Garrett, below is a copy of what I received from the buyer,
doesn't look too encouraging (?)

"I am sorry it has taken so long to get back to you; it took me several
days to do research and catch up with the surveyor.  The surveyor
indicated that a piece of plywood had been bolted to the transom and so
he checked and found moisture on the transom as well.  This indicates
that the moisture started in the transom and spread to the stringers,
which is often the case.  That moisture may have penetrated well towards
the cockpit or beyond affecting the full structure of the hull.
Estimates to repair this problem range from $10k to $15K or more."


Mervyn Carr, CPIM
GE
Water and Process Technologies
I.T. Project Manager
ZENON Membrane Solutions

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mcarr@zenon.com
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3239 Dundas Street West
Oakville, Ontario, L6M 4B2, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Lambert [mailto:garrettlambert@shaw.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:09 AM
To: Carr, Mervyn; trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: 1987 Peterborough power cruiser dilemma

Hi Mervyn

It's worth getting an estimate to repair/replace the damaged areas.

If the wooden stringers are encapsulated in fiberglass, a good surveyor
would probably have told the buyer that this problem is present in
almost
all older boats. He might also have offered the advice that it is not a
significant deficiency, because the stringers' strength is in the glass.

Even so, the report would leave a buyer  uncomfortable. (Been there,
done
that.) A price reduction for the 'cosmetic problem' might re-kindle
interest.

You can also have encapsulated stringers repaired - injected - for not
much
more than plain wooden ones. The big expense is what has to come out to
get
at the affected area(s) and then be replaced, and that' usually the
engine.
(This problem seems to almost always start with leaks at the engine
mounts.)
Since you seem able to remove the engine yourself...

Cheers, Garrett



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carr, Mervyn" <mcarr@zenon.com>
To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:06 AM
Subject: T&T: 1987 Peterborough power cruiser dilemma


>I have a 1987 Peterborough cruiser for sale. I had a firm buyer
(subject
> to survey). Unfortunately the survey turned up very high moisture
levels
> in the engine room stringers and the buyer has (understandably) backed
> out. I am reluctant to sell her to an "innocent victim" knowing what I
> now know.
>
> The engine though is in great shape as is the interior. My current
> thinking is to effectively scrap the boat and sell off the engine,
> outdrive etc.
>
> Engine is a 5.7 liter (Chev) OMC unit with a little over 1000 hours,
> with OMC outdrive..
>
> I am open to offers as I don't really want to own two boats (and store
> and winterize two boats) or does anyone else have any bright ideas?
(The
> starter has also decided to die in the last couple of days!)
>
> Mervyn Carr
> GE
> Water and Process Technologies
> I.T. Project Manager
> ZENON Membrane Solutions
>
> T + 1 905 465 3030 x 3393
> M + 1 905 334 7748
> F + 1 905 465 3050
> mcarr@zenon.com
> www.zenon.com
>
> 3239 Dundas Street West
> Oakville, Ontario, L6M 4B2, Canada
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