[Sentoa] Sentoa Digest, Vol 73, Issue 4
Jane Pauk
gpauk at earthlink.net
Sun Jul 5 18:14:52 EDT 2009
Regarding Vacuflush problems - perhaps I'm an optimist, but one thing
I've learned in travels in Central America & Africa - "never put paper
into the john!".
Thats what plastic bags & waste paper containers under the sink are
for. Easy enough to dispose of and then you can use whatever less
expensive brand you want without "gunking up the sensors". Of course
- eventually other problems may arise but it won't be because of too
much Toilet paper.
Jane on Holdfast II 3795.
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> Charles,
> I had a similar issue on my tug 32-267. One thing I would add to the
> other responses is that while you are down there doing a job you
> hope not to do for a LONG time, ask someone to look at the sensor
> lights (since you will be folded into a young marsupial position in
> the engine room) and slide each unit up and down to make sure wires
> are connected properly, the right lights are coming in in the right
> order and everything is working. Best of luck and happy boating.
> Rebecca Frederick
> Kismet? 32-267
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> I submitted 2 problems 6/28 Lost??
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> Two recent problems??
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> 1. Re the three Vacuflush holding tank contents lights--All are on
> all the
> time--full or empty??
>
> 2 Outside, on the starboard side midway down the salon, a red
> staining
> dripping (apparently from the overhang under the roof) is occurring
> -very
> difficult to remove - no signs of leaks inside??
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> Charles Lanier Stone
> 870 North St.
> Greenwich, CT 06831
> clsos at aol.com
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:41:31 -0700
> From: Anthony Thorne <ajpenn42 at gmail.com>
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> Well what model is your tug?
>
> The Tankwatch has "stuff" clinging to it, need to either flush with
> water (a
> lot many times) and hope or remove and clean. When cleaning ensure
> that you
> remove all build up of crud and make the sensors clean and smooth,
> else more
> crud collects real fast.
>
> Enjoy :-)
>
> Anthony
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:32 AM, <CLSOS at aol.com> wrote:
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>> *I submitted 2 problems 6/28 Lost??*
>> **
>> *Two recent problems??*
>> **
>> *1. Re the three Vacuflush holding tank contents lights--All are on
>> all
>> the time--full or empty?? *
>> **
>> *2 Outside, on the starboard side midway down the salon, a red
>> staining
>> dripping (apparently from the overhang under the roof) is occurring
>> -very
>> difficult to remove - no signs of leaks inside?? *
>> **
>> *Charles Lanier Stone
>> 870 North St.
>> Greenwich, CT 06831
>> clsos at aol.com
>> 203-661-7120
>> Go to - "Youtube.com"; then in search box: "cstone3"*
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> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:56:01 -0700
> From: Simon Bergen-Henengouwen <sbergen at cybered.ca>
> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association \(SENTOA\)"
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> Charles:
>
> I have had the first problem and that is easy to correct but as
> Anthony inferred not fun! What the problem is the gunk has collected
> on the rods preventing the floats from moving up and down. I am not
> sure of the differences between tugs through the years so my
> instructions may not apply. But ours, on Hull #32-217 (2002 vintage
> and ironically Anthony Thorne's before that), was corrected as
> follows:
>
> 1. Get an ice cream bucket or suitable container with some water and
> detergent added.
> 2. Get an old toothbrush. A new one will also do!
> 3. Get down into the engine room starboard side.
> 4. Below the front of the engine you will see the 3 guilty sensor
> caps with wires going to them in the middle of a white knurled ring
> cap about 5" diameter, on top of a solid black fitting.
> 5. Be careful not to disturb the wires too much as they are thin.
> 6. Try to unscrew the large ring counter-clockwise. May need to tap
> slightly to get it to move, or use a screw driver and wedge it
> between the white cap and the black fitting. Extra long arms are a
> bonus here!
> 7. Slowly lift the entire assembly, (with wires still attached) and
> clean 3 rods with toothbrush. Make sure floats can slide easily up
> and down.
> 8. Re-insert assembly into tank and turn white ring clockwise to
> lock.
>
> Charles, you are now a proud member of the NT Head Club. Honorary
> membership is issued to those who have replaced the Vacuflush rubbers
> (aka Duck Valves). You might also get to have dinner with Peggy
> Hall, the Head Mistress.
>
> Simon
>
> (formerly NT32-217, 2002)
>
> p.s. If you do a search using Google you will find lots of replies
> on this problem. Just enter the phrase "Holding Tank Lights SENTOA
> site:samurai.com"
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:27:38 EDT
> From: Seasalt007 at aol.com
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> I did all this too for the same problem and then...I twisted one of
> the
> tiny wires in two way down inside of one of the tubes. So I ordered
> a new
> sending unit...expensive...and wired up a quick electrical
> connection using a 6
> wire trailer harness from the auto parts store. Now I unplug the
> little
> wires before I remove the unit from the tank.
>
> Ron Carter
> Sedona 42-19 (2000)
> Punta Gorda
>
>
> In a message dated 7/3/2009 12:56:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sbergen at cybered.ca writes:
>
> Charles:
>
> I have had the first problem and that is easy to correct but as
> Anthony inferred not fun! What the problem is the gunk has collected
> on the rods preventing the floats from moving up and down. I am not
> sure of the differences between tugs through the years so my
> instructions may not apply. But ours, on Hull #32-217 (2002 vintage
> and ironically Anthony Thorne's before that), was corrected as
> follows:
>
> 1. Get an ice cream bucket or suitable container with some water and
> detergent added.
> 2. Get an old toothbrush. A new one will also do!
> 3. Get down into the engine room starboard side.
> 4. Below the front of the engine you will see the 3 guilty sensor
> caps with wires going to them in the middle of a white knurled ring
> cap about 5" diameter, on top of a solid black fitting.
> 5. Be careful not to disturb the wires too much as they are thin.
> 6. Try to unscrew the large ring counter-clockwise. May need to tap
> slightly to get it to move, or use a screw driver and wedge it
> between the white cap and the black fitting. Extra long arms are a
> bonus
> here!
> 7. Slowly lift the entire assembly, (with wires still attached) and
> clean 3 rods with toothbrush. Make sure floats can slide easily up
> and
> down.
> 8. Re-insert assembly into tank and turn white ring clockwise to
> lock.
>
> Charles, you are now a proud member of the NT Head Club. Honorary
> membership is issued to those who have replaced the Vacuflush rubbers
> (aka Duck Valves). You might also get to have dinner with Peggy
> Hall, the Head Mistress.
>
> Simon
>
> (formerly NT32-217, 2002)
>
> p.s. If you do a search using Google you will find lots of replies
> on this problem. Just enter the phrase "Holding Tank Lights SENTOA
> site:samurai.com"
>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:15:11 +0000 (UTC)
> From: tugs4me at comcast.net
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> Fellow tuggers,
>
> Had a similar situation early on (twice) but concluded the basic
> problem is
> two-fold: first is the type of TP used and second is thorough
> agitation of
> holding tank contents. Though I equate SeaLand's "best" TP to emery
> paper, use
> of it has eliminated the problem. Also, for insurance, when in rough
> water I
> send more water into the holding tank to slosh around and, with a
> little luck,
> clean the sensor floats to prevent their fouling. "Tis an ill wind -
> - - - -."
>
> I have no economic interest in SeaLand nor in their products but I
> am very
> concerned about mucking about in the plumbing apparatus and go to
> considerable
> lengths to prevent it. Scotty of THREE JEANS is willing to help on
> most problems
> but I haven't the heart to call him on plumbing issues. If and when
> I really
> need his help I've resolved to call it "a downstream issue."
>
> Jim Moore
> RILEY, 37085
>
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> To: sentoa at lists.samurai.com
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>
> I did all this too for the same problem and then...I twisted one of
> the tiny
> wires in two way down inside of one of the tubes. So I ordered a new
> sending
> unit...expensive...and wired up a quick electrical connection using
> a 6 wire
> trailer harness from the auto parts store. Now I unplug the little
> wires before
> I remove the unit from the tank.
>
> Ron Carter
> Sedona 42-19 (2000)
> Punta Gorda
>
>
> In a message dated 7/3/2009 12:56:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> sbergen at cybered.ca writes:
>
> Charles:
>
> I have had the first problem and that is easy to correct but as
> Anthony inferred not fun! What the problem is the gunk has collected
> on the rods preventing the floats from moving up and down. I am not
> sure of the differences between tugs through the years so my
> instructions may not apply. But ours, on Hull #32-217 (2002 vintage
> and ironically Anthony Thorne's before that), was corrected as
> follows:
>
> 1. Get an ice cream bucket or suitable container with some water and
> detergent added.
> 2. Get an old toothbrush. A new one will also do!
> 3. Get down into the engine room starboard side.
> 4. Below the front of the engine you will see the 3 guilty sensor
> caps with wires going to them in the middle of a white knurled ring
> cap about 5" diameter, on top of a solid black fitting.
> 5. Be careful not to disturb the wires too much as they are thin.
> 6. Try to unscrew the large ring counter-clockwise. May need to tap
> slightly to get it to move, or use a screw driver and wedge it
> between the white cap and the black fitting. Extra long arms are a
> bonus here!
> 7. Slowly lift the entire assembly, (with wires still attached) and
> clean 3 rods with toothbrush. Make sure floats can slide easily up
> and down.
> 8. Re-insert assembly into tank and turn white ring clockwise to lock.
>
> Charles, you are now a proud member of the NT Head Club. Honorary
> membership is issued to those who have replaced the Vacuflush rubbers
> (aka Duck Valves). You might also get to have dinner with Peggy
> Hall, the Head Mistress.
>
> Simon
>
> (formerly NT32-217, 2002)
>
> p.s. If you do a search using Google you will find lots of replies
> on this problem. Just enter the phrase "Holding Tank Lights SENTOA
> site:samurai.com"
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:38:23 -0700
> From: "David Cheyette" <david at cheyette.com>
> To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association \(SENTOA\)"
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> Last winter I upgraded my engine alternator to about 200 amps of
> output.
> Along the way we upgraded the wiring between the alternator and the
> starter and the isolator. Now the question is... do I need to
> upgrade
> the isolator to match the incoming amps from the alternator (difficult
> as isolators don't seem to come rated at 200 amps), or remove the
> isolator and wire the alternator directly to the house bank, and then
> use Automatic Charging Relay switches between the house battery and
> the
> other batteries.
>
>
>
> My concern is that the higher amperage of the alternator might fry the
> existing isolator. Can anyone that has upgraded their alternator
> comment?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> David Cheyette
>
> Maisy 37-100
>
> Seattle, WA
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