[Sentoa] Sentoa Digest, Vol 73, Issue 3
rfdinesen at aol.com
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Sat Jul 4 09:52:09 EDT 2009
Charles,
I had a similar issue on my tug 32-267. One thing I would add to the other responses is that while you are down there doing a job you hope not to do for a LONG time, ask someone to look at the sensor lights (since you will be folded into a young marsupial position in the engine room) and slide each unit up and down to make sure wires are connected properly, the right lights are coming in in the right order and everything is working. Best of luck and happy boating.
Rebecca Frederick
Kismet? 32-267
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1. Lost?? (CLSOS at aol.com)
2. Re: Lost?? (Anthony Thorne)
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4. Re: Lost?? (Seasalt007 at aol.com)
5. Re: Lost?? (tugs4me at comcast.net)
6. Battery Isolator or Automatic Charge Relay - (David Cheyette)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:32:31 EDT
From: CLSOS at aol.com
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Subject: [Sentoa] Lost??
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I submitted 2 problems 6/28 Lost??
Two recent problems??
1. Re the three Vacuflush holding tank contents lights--All are on all the
time--full or empty??
2 Outside, on the starboard side midway down the salon, a red staining
dripping (apparently from the overhang under the roof) is occurring -very
difficult to remove - no signs of leaks inside??
Charles Lanier Stone
870 North St.
Greenwich, CT 06831
clsos at aol.com
203-661-7120
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:41:31 -0700
From: Anthony Thorne <ajpenn42 at gmail.com>
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)"
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Subject: Re: [Sentoa] Lost??
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Well what model is your tug?
The Tankwatch has "stuff" clinging to it, need to either flush with water (a
lot many times) and hope or remove and clean. When cleaning ensure that you
remove all build up of crud and make the sensors clean and smooth, else more
crud collects real fast.
Enjoy :-)
Anthony
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:32 AM, <CLSOS at aol.com> wrote:
> *I submitted 2 problems 6/28 Lost??*
> **
> *Two recent problems??*
> **
> *1. Re the three Vacuflush holding tank contents lights--All are on all
> the time--full or empty?? *
> **
> *2 Outside, on the starboard side midway down the salon, a red staining
> dripping (apparently from the overhang under the roof) is occurring -very
> difficult to remove - no signs of leaks inside?? *
> **
> *Charles Lanier Stone
> 870 North St.
> Greenwich, CT 06831
> clsos at aol.com
> 203-661-7120
> Go to - "Youtube.com"; then in search box: "cstone3"*
>
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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:56:01 -0700
From: Simon Bergen-Henengouwen <sbergen at cybered.ca>
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association \(SENTOA\)"
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Subject: Re: [Sentoa] Lost??
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Charles:
I have had the first problem and that is easy to correct but as
Anthony inferred not fun! What the problem is the gunk has collected
on the rods preventing the floats from moving up and down. I am not
sure of the differences between tugs through the years so my
instructions may not apply. But ours, on Hull #32-217 (2002 vintage
and ironically Anthony Thorne's before that), was corrected as follows:
1. Get an ice cream bucket or suitable container with some water and
detergent added.
2. Get an old toothbrush. A new one will also do!
3. Get down into the engine room starboard side.
4. Below the front of the engine you will see the 3 guilty sensor
caps with wires going to them in the middle of a white knurled ring
cap about 5" diameter, on top of a solid black fitting.
5. Be careful not to disturb the wires too much as they are thin.
6. Try to unscrew the large ring counter-clockwise. May need to tap
slightly to get it to move, or use a screw driver and wedge it
between the white cap and the black fitting. Extra long arms are a bonus here!
7. Slowly lift the entire assembly, (with wires still attached) and
clean 3 rods with toothbrush. Make sure floats can slide easily up and down.
8. Re-insert assembly into tank and turn white ring clockwise to lock.
Charles, you are now a proud member of the NT Head Club. Honorary
membership is issued to those who have replaced the Vacuflush rubbers
(aka Duck Valves). You might also get to have dinner with Peggy
Hall, the Head Mistress.
Simon
(formerly NT32-217, 2002)
p.s. If you do a search using Google you will find lots of replies
on this problem. Just enter the phrase "Holding Tank Lights SENTOA
site:samurai.com"
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:27:38 EDT
From: Seasalt007 at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [Sentoa] Lost??
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I did all this too for the same problem and then...I twisted one of the
tiny wires in two way down inside of one of the tubes. So I ordered a new
sending unit...expensive...and wired up a quick electrical connection using a 6
wire trailer harness from the auto parts store. Now I unplug the little
wires before I remove the unit from the tank.
Ron Carter
Sedona 42-19 (2000)
Punta Gorda
In a message dated 7/3/2009 12:56:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sbergen at cybered.ca writes:
Charles:
I have had the first problem and that is easy to correct but as
Anthony inferred not fun! What the problem is the gunk has collected
on the rods preventing the floats from moving up and down. I am not
sure of the differences between tugs through the years so my
instructions may not apply. But ours, on Hull #32-217 (2002 vintage
and ironically Anthony Thorne's before that), was corrected as follows:
1. Get an ice cream bucket or suitable container with some water and
detergent added.
2. Get an old toothbrush. A new one will also do!
3. Get down into the engine room starboard side.
4. Below the front of the engine you will see the 3 guilty sensor
caps with wires going to them in the middle of a white knurled ring
cap about 5" diameter, on top of a solid black fitting.
5. Be careful not to disturb the wires too much as they are thin.
6. Try to unscrew the large ring counter-clockwise. May need to tap
slightly to get it to move, or use a screw driver and wedge it
between the white cap and the black fitting. Extra long arms are a bonus
here!
7. Slowly lift the entire assembly, (with wires still attached) and
clean 3 rods with toothbrush. Make sure floats can slide easily up and
down.
8. Re-insert assembly into tank and turn white ring clockwise to lock.
Charles, you are now a proud member of the NT Head Club. Honorary
membership is issued to those who have replaced the Vacuflush rubbers
(aka Duck Valves). You might also get to have dinner with Peggy
Hall, the Head Mistress.
Simon
(formerly NT32-217, 2002)
p.s. If you do a search using Google you will find lots of replies
on this problem. Just enter the phrase "Holding Tank Lights SENTOA
site:samurai.com"
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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:15:11 +0000 (UTC)
From: tugs4me at comcast.net
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA)"
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Fellow tuggers,
Had a similar situation early on (twice) but concluded the basic problem is
two-fold: first is the type of TP used and second is thorough agitation of
holding tank contents. Though I equate SeaLand's "best" TP to emery paper, use
of it has eliminated the problem. Also, for insurance, when in rough water I
send more water into the holding tank to slosh around and, with a little luck,
clean the sensor floats to prevent their fouling. "Tis an ill wind - - - - -."
I have no economic interest in SeaLand nor in their products but I am very
concerned about mucking about in the plumbing apparatus and go to considerable
lengths to prevent it. Scotty of THREE JEANS is willing to help on most problems
but I haven't the heart to call him on plumbing issues. If and when I really
need his help I've resolved to call it "a downstream issue."
Jim Moore
RILEY, 37085
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I did all this too for the same problem and then...I twisted one of the tiny
wires in two way down inside of one of the tubes. So I ordered a new sending
unit...expensive...and wired up a quick electrical connection using a 6 wire
trailer harness from the auto parts store. Now I unplug the little wires before
I remove the unit from the tank.
Ron Carter
Sedona 42-19 (2000)
Punta Gorda
In a message dated 7/3/2009 12:56:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sbergen at cybered.ca writes:
Charles:
I have had the first problem and that is easy to correct but as
Anthony inferred not fun! What the problem is the gunk has collected
on the rods preventing the floats from moving up and down. I am not
sure of the differences between tugs through the years so my
instructions may not apply. But ours, on Hull #32-217 (2002 vintage
and ironically Anthony Thorne's before that), was corrected as follows:
1. Get an ice cream bucket or suitable container with some water and
detergent added.
2. Get an old toothbrush. A new one will also do!
3. Get down into the engine room starboard side.
4. Below the front of the engine you will see the 3 guilty sensor
caps with wires going to them in the middle of a white knurled ring
cap about 5" diameter, on top of a solid black fitting.
5. Be careful not to disturb the wires too much as they are thin.
6. Try to unscrew the large ring counter-clockwise. May need to tap
slightly to get it to move, or use a screw driver and wedge it
between the white cap and the black fitting. Extra long arms are a bonus here!
7. Slowly lift the entire assembly, (with wires still attached) and
clean 3 rods with toothbrush. Make sure floats can slide easily up and down.
8. Re-insert assembly into tank and turn white ring clockwise to lock.
Charles, you are now a proud member of the NT Head Club. Honorary
membership is issued to those who have replaced the Vacuflush rubbers
(aka Duck Valves). You might also get to have dinner with Peggy
Hall, the Head Mistress.
Simon
(formerly NT32-217, 2002)
p.s. If you do a search using Google you will find lots of replies
on this problem. Just enter the phrase "Holding Tank Lights SENTOA
site:samurai.com"
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:38:23 -0700
From: "David Cheyette" <david at cheyette.com>
To: "South East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association \(SENTOA\)"
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Last winter I upgraded my engine alternator to about 200 amps of output.
Along the way we upgraded the wiring between the alternator and the
starter and the isolator. Now the question is... do I need to upgrade
the isolator to match the incoming amps from the alternator (difficult
as isolators don't seem to come rated at 200 amps), or remove the
isolator and wire the alternator directly to the house bank, and then
use Automatic Charging Relay switches between the house battery and the
other batteries.
My concern is that the higher amperage of the alternator might fry the
existing isolator. Can anyone that has upgraded their alternator
comment?
Thanks,
David Cheyette
Maisy 37-100
Seattle, WA
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