[Sentoa] Sentoa Digest, Vol 70, Issue 11

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Mon Apr 13 11:06:37 EDT 2009


Hi: We use Zurich - $1453 - Annapolis/Chesapeake - 8 Mos Nav.
Bob Christman
LIBERTAD (NT32 - 2007)
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2009 9:41:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
coolbreeze06067 at yahoo.com writes:

dear fellow tuggers, we have a 2007 32 that we bought new  in ct. our 
insurance is about $1500 & we're wondering if we are  paying too much.  anyone 
have a better quote than that?  thanks.  luke & michelle adams, aboard "lesser 
light" clinton,  ct

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Subject: Sentoa Digest,  Vol 70, Issue 11
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Date: Monday,  April 13, 2009, 12:00 AM

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Today's  Topics:

1. Re: Leak Above Head Sink (_camrpm163 at aol.com_ 
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2.  Re: Leak Above Head Sink (Bryan Genez)
3. Re:  Leak Above Head Sink (Shane Bowlin)
4. Re: Leak  Above Head Sink (Bryan  Genez)


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Message:  1
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:20:19 -0400
From: _camrpm163 at aol.com_ 
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To: _sentoa at lists.samurai.com_ 
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Subject:  Re: [Sentoa] Leak Above Head Sink
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Bryan,I have a brick red hull as  well and after buffing,polishing & even 
wet sanding over the years  I have now given up on it.
With all of that work it will look great  for about a month than that milky 
look returns, the previous owner  even applyed a product called Poly Coat 
that will give only  a?temporary delay for the inevitable (paint). So, I have 
now began the  process for painting which is quite hard when following the 
paint  manufactures directions but, should last seven to ten years. If you  
are now removing the rub rail it might be a good time to consider  
painting?& removing that rail isn't easy if you don't want to  break it, there is 
calking there and breaking the seal is tough.Good  luck.

Richard Maresca
CARISMA? 32-144
Whitestone,  NY??

riginal Message-----
From: Bryan Genez <_sarayu at genez.us_ 
(http://us.mc374.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sarayu@genez.us) >
To: South  East Nordic Tugs Owners' Association (SENTOA) 
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Sent:  Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Sentoa] Leak Above Head  Sink


Al Verizon ?wrote:

> I would check the  Deck/Hull seam in that area. You need to remove the 
rub 
> rail  very carefully.
> 
> I had a leak slightly forward of that  and it was fixed when I filled a 
dent 
> with Sikaflex. It was  apparently caused by a bang on a piling at some 
time.

Thanks,  Al. ?I'll spend some time investigating. ?A quick check of the 
nearby  areas showed a lot of possible entry areas. ?This one might take a  
while to chase down...especially because the only way to find out if  it's 
stopped is to bash into waves off the starboard bow and see if it  recurs. ?I'm 
thinking we won't encounter those conditions for a  while.

In the meantime, I have to restore the brick red color  to the stern, 
before I apply the new name and hailing port decals;  then I have to mount the 
Sea Wise dinghy davit system; then I have to  deal with dividing the anchor 
locker and make provisions for a second  anchor and rode. ?Those should keep 
me busy enough.

-- 
Best  regards,
Bryan and Linda Genez
"Sarayu" NT-32 #265
New Bern,  NC



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Message:  2
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:20:31 -0400
From: Bryan Genez <_sarayu at genez.us_ 
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Subject:  Re: [Sentoa] Leak Above Head Sink
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_camrpm163 at aol.com_ 
(http://us.mc374.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=camrpm163@aol.com)    wrote:

> Bryan,I have a brick red hull as well and after  buffing,polishing & even 
wet
> sanding over the years I have  now given up on it.
> With all of that work it will look great  for about a month than that 
milky
> look returns, the previous  owner even applyed a product called Poly Coat 
that
> will give  only a temporary delay for the inevitable (paint). So, I have  
now
> began the process for painting which is quite hard when  following the 
paint
> manufactures directions but, should last  seven to ten years. If you are 
now
> removing the rub rail it  might be a good time to consider painting & 
removing
> that  rail isn't easy if you don't want to break it, there is calking 
there  and
> breaking the seal is tough.Good  luck.

Richard,

Thanks.  Just returned home from an  afternoon of working on Sarayu?s hull,
without a lot of  success.  The immediate problem is the considerable
difference  in hull color underneath the old name (I removed the old vinyl
name  and hailing port yesterday.) and the surrounding hull.  I tried  a
couple of different polishes and waxes that claimed to repair sun  damage
without significant success.  Tomorrow, I?ll try  rubbing compound.  Not
looking forward to it.  If anyone  has better ideas, I?d love to hear them.

I?ll live with the  inevitable sun fading for a while.  For now, I just want
the  new name to look like it belongs there, not covering up the remnants  
of
the old name.  A paint job is well into the future.   As for the rub rail, I
won?t be attempting that removal until and  if I actually track the leak to
that source.

-- 
Best  regards,
Bryan and Linda Genez
"Sarayu" NT-32 #265
New Bern,  NC

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Message:  3
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:36:54 -0800
From: Shane Bowlin  <_skbowlin at alaska.net_ 
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Subject:  Re: [Sentoa] Leak Above Head Sink
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Try Flitz on  the fiberglass, it takes some elbow grease but it is  
amazing  stuff.

Shane Bowlin
Nordic Chill 32-97
On Apr 12, 2009,  at 2:20 PM, Bryan Genez wrote:

> _camrpm163 at aol.com_ 
(http://us.mc374.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=camrpm163@aol.com)    wrote:
>
>> Bryan,I have a brick red hull as well and  after buffing,polishing &  
>> even wet sanding over  the years I have now given up on it.
>> With all of that work  it will look great for about a month than  
>> that  milky look returns, the previous owner even applyed a product   
>> called Poly Coat that will give only a temporary delay  for the  
>> inevitable (paint). So, I have now began  the process for painting  
>> which is quite hard when  following the paint manufactures  
>> directions but,  should last seven to ten years. If you are now  
>>  removing the rub rail it might be a good time to consider  painting  
>> & removing that rail isn't easy if you  don't want to break it,  
>> there is calking there and  breaking the seal is tough.Good luck.
>
>  Richard,
>
> Thanks.  Just returned home from an  afternoon of working on Sarayu?s  
> hull, without a lot of  success.  The immediate problem is the  
>  considerable difference in hull color underneath the old name (I   
> removed the old vinyl name and hailing port yesterday.) and  the  
> surrounding hull.  I tried a couple of  different polishes and waxes  
> that claimed to repair sun  damage without significant success.   
>  Tomorrow, I?ll try rubbing compound.  Not looking forward to  it.  If  
> anyone has better ideas, I?d love to hear  them.
>
> I?ll live with the inevitable sun fading for a  while.  For now, I  
> just want the new name to look  like it belongs there, not covering  
> up the remnants of  the old name.  A paint job is well into the  
>  future.  As for the rub rail, I won?t be attempting that  removal  
> until and if I actually track the leak to that  source.
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bryan and  Linda Genez
> "Sarayu" NT-32 #265
> New Bern, NC
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Message:  4
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 19:10:02 -0400
From: Bryan Genez <_sarayu at genez.us_ 
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Subject:  Re: [Sentoa] Leak Above Head Sink
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Shane Bowlin   wrote:

> Try Flitz on the fiberglass, it takes some elbow  grease but it is amazing
> stuff.

Hmmm.   Interesting.  Thanks, Shane.

-- 
Best regards,
Bryan  and Linda Genez
"Sarayu" NT-32 #265
New Bern,  NC

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