[PCW] Fw: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope this is not the truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid & embarassing.jc

Alan Bliss ajbliss at ufl.edu
Tue Apr 21 01:08:37 EDT 2009


I second what that Mr. Harrott wrote. The several rather obvious flaws
in the original rant make it tedious enough, but whether anyone likes
this stuff or not, it has no place on the Power Cat list.

Alan Bliss

On Apr 21, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Noelle Harrott wrote:

> Hello all!
> I find it extremely inappropriate to find a posting on this list
> fueled by partisan politics.
> Consider the source of the ridiculous rant that Dennis Raedeke posted:
> Dennis has a friend in Texas who receives info from a buddy in VA,
> who spoke to a guy, who says he is a Navy Seal, who is privy to high-
> level info, assumably classified, communicated from the White House
> to Naval Command, which spells out step by step, what President
> Obama directed the commander of the Bainbridge to execute.
> Give me a break!!! In any case, this is a list called the Power
> Catamaran List. It is for the interchange of info and ideas
> pertaining to power catamarans and things relating to boats. Keep
> your redneck politics and unsubstantiated news items to yourself.
>
>                             Regards, Bert Harrott
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Raedeke" <dennis at wildmountain.com
> >
> To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran at lists.samurai.com>;
<amy at wildmountain.com
> >
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:32 PM
> Subject: [PCW] Fw: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope
> this is not the truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big
> destroyer sitting there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats,
> looked really stupid & embarassing.jc
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: moenmjr at aol.com
>> To: clwhitaker at comcast.net ; DTheuninck at aol.com ; judefinn at msn.com ;
>> roger.finnes.b4zy at statefarm.com ; rjohns at barlowresearch.com ;
>> CMJsunrise at comcast.net ; dennis at wildmountain.com ;
>> johnarlana at aol.com ;
>> krivard at forestlake.k12.mn.us
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:20 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope
>> this is not
>> the truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting
>> there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid &
>> embarassing.jc
>>
>>
>> This should be no surprise to any of you guys !!
>>
>> Mike M.
>>
>>
>>
>> Subject: FW: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope this
>> is not the
>> truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting
>> there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid &
>> embarassing.jc
>>
>>
>> FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ;
>> Let the political games begin!!!!!!!!
>>
>>     I have no idea who originated the following but, somehow, it's
>> totally
>> believable. I couldn't verify its authenticity.
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>>     Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach
>> yesterday and
>> asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:
>>     1.  BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/
>> NSWC SEAL
>> teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene
>> commander)
>> recommendation.
>>     2.  Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE
>> (Rules of
>> Engagement) that they couldn't do anything unless the hostage's
>> life was in
>> "imminent" danger
>>
>>     3.  The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the
>> raggies all
>> sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction
>>
>>     4.  When the navy RIB (rigid inflatable boat) came under fire
>> as it
>> approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE
>> restrictions. As
>> the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the
>> SEALS had them
>> all dialed in.
>>
>>     5.  BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the
>> Bainbridge
>> CPN and SEAL teams
>>
>>     6.  Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have
>> the OpArea
>> and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage.  4 hours
>> later, 3 dead
>> raggies
>>
>>     7.  BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive"
>> behaviour.  As usual with him, it's BS. So per our last e-mail
>> thread, I'm
>> downgrading Oohbaby's performance to D-.  Only reason it's not an F
>> is that
>> the hostage survived.
>>
>>     Philipsb first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian
>> Ocean
>> hadn't worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a
>> rescue by his
>> countrybs Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat
>> prison,
>> enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his
>> captors b
>> and none was taken. The guidance from National Command Authority b
>> the
>> president of the United States, Barack Obama b had been clear: a
>> peaceful
>> solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the
>> hostagebs life was in clear, extreme danger.
>>
>>     The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft
>> was fired
>> on by the Somali pirates b and again no fire was returned and no
>> pirates
>> killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy
>> personnel
>> thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from
>> Washington and a
>> mandate from the commander in chiefbs staff not to act until
>> Obama, a man
>> with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of
>> decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a bpeaceful
>> solutionb
>> would be acceptable.
>>
>>     After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday
>> night, the
>> on scene commander decided he'd had enough. Keeping his authority
>> to act in
>> the case of a clear and present danger to the hostagebs life and
>> having
>> heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a
>> rescue
>> operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer b
>> unnamed in all
>> media reports to date b decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at
>> Philipsb back was a threat to the hostagebs life and ordered the
>> NSWC team
>> to take their shots. Three rounds downrange later, all three
>> brigands became
>> enemy KIA and Philips was safe.
>>
>>     There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events
>> over the
>> last week that culminated in yesterdaybs dramatic rescue of an
>> American
>> hostage. Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama
>> administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates
>> in the
>> Indian Ocean and declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put
>> to rest
>> questions of the inexperienced presidentbs toughness and
>> decisiveness.
>> Despite the Obama administrationbs (and its sycophantsb) attempt
>> to spin
>> yesterdaybs success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the
>> inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What
>> should have
>> been a standoff lasting only hours b as long as it took the USS
>> Bainbridge
>> and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location b became an
>> embarrassing four-day and counting standoff between a ragtag
>> handful of
>> criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.
>>
>>
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