[PCW] Fw: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope this is not the truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid & embarassing.jc

Tue Apr 21 00:01:55 EDT 2009

Hello all!
I find it extremely inappropriate to find a posting on this list fueled by 
partisan politics.
Consider the source of the ridiculous rant that Dennis Raedeke posted:
Dennis has a friend in Texas who receives info from a buddy in VA, who spoke 
to a guy, who says he is a Navy Seal, who is privy to high-level info, 
assumably classified, communicated from the White House to Naval Command, 
which spells out step by step, what President Obama directed the commander 
of the Bainbridge to execute.
Give me a break!!! In any case, this is a list called the Power Catamaran 
List. It is for the interchange of info and ideas pertaining to power 
catamarans and things relating to boats. Keep your redneck politics and 
unsubstantiated news items to yourself.

                              Regards, Bert Harrott

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Raedeke" <dennis at wildmountain.com>
To: "Power Catamaran List" <power-catamaran at lists.samurai.com>; 
<amy at wildmountain.com>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: [PCW] Fw: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope this is 
not the truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting 
there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid & 
embarassing.jc

> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:20 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope this is 
> not
> the truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting
> there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid &
> embarassing.jc
>
>
>  This should be no surprise to any of you guys !!
>
>  Mike M.
>
>
>
> Subject: FW: Interesting [received from a friend in TX, I hope this is not 
> the
> truth but agree, it probably is. Yes, our big destroyer sitting
> there....dah....next to 2 puney pirate boats, looked really stupid &
> embarassing.jc
>
>
> FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ;
> Let the political games begin!!!!!!!!
>
>      I have no idea who originated the following but, somehow, it's 
> totally
> believable. I couldn't verify its authenticity.
>      __________________________________________________________________
>
>      Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and
> asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:
>      1.  BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC 
> SEAL
> teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander)
> recommendation.
>      2.  Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE (Rules 
> of
> Engagement) that they couldn't do anything unless the hostage's life was 
> in
> "imminent" danger
>
>      3.  The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all
> sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction
>
>      4.  When the navy RIB (rigid inflatable boat) came under fire as it
> approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. 
> As
> the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had 
> them
> all dialed in.
>
>      5.  BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the 
> Bainbridge
> CPN and SEAL teams
>
>      6.  Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the 
> OpArea
> and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage.  4 hours later, 3 
> dead
> raggies
>
>      7.  BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive"
> behaviour.  As usual with him, it's BS. So per our last e-mail thread, I'm
> downgrading Oohbaby's performance to D-.  Only reason it's not an F is 
> that
> the hostage survived.
>
>      Philipsb first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean
> hadn't worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by 
> his
> countrybs Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat 
> prison,
> enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors 
> b
> and none was taken. The guidance from National Command Authority b the
> president of the United States, Barack Obama b had been clear: a peaceful
> solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the
> hostagebs life was in clear, extreme danger.
>
>      The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was 
> fired
> on by the Somali pirates b and again no fire was returned and no pirates
> killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy 
> personnel
> thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and 
> a
> mandate from the commander in chiefbs staff not to act until Obama, a man
> with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of
> decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a b
peaceful solutionb

> would be acceptable.
>
>      After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, 
> the
> on scene commander decided he'd had enough. Keeping his authority to act 
> in
> the case of a clear and present danger to the hostagebs life and having
> heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue
> operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer b unnamed in 
> all
> media reports to date b decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at
> Philipsb back was a threat to the hostagebs life and ordered the NSWC 
> team
> to take their shots. Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands 
> became
> enemy KIA and Philips was safe.
>
>      There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over 
> the
> last week that culminated in yesterdaybs dramatic rescue of an American
> hostage. Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama
> administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the
> Indian Ocean and declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put to 
> rest
> questions of the inexperienced presidentbs toughness and decisiveness.
> Despite the Obama administrationbs (and its sycophantsb) attempt to spin
> yesterdaybs success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the
> inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort. What should 
> have
> been a standoff lasting only hours b as long as it took the USS 
> Bainbridge
> and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location b became an
> embarrassing four-day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of
> criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.
>
>
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