[PCW] Fountaine Pajot Cumberland 44 & Cat A rating
Design Assoc. & AquaKlear
mlkdesign at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 4 09:21:41 EST 2008
--- gram rupert <gramario at tin.it> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> Would have preferred to write direct as we are
> getting OT here, bt I
> see you don't post an e-mail address.
> Just wanted to add that I see from F-P's site that
> they do sell in
> the US.
> See:
>
http://www.fountaine-pajot.com/New-models-exhibited-in-the-USA.html
> Rupert.
>
G. Rupert,
I'm sorry about that. I forgot that this was on
the cat-list. My e-mail address is
mlkdesign at yahoo.com. I am aware of this but it has to
be brought to the courts attention before anything
more can happen for me with F-P.
Michael
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2008, at 11:02, Design Assoc. & AquaKlear
> wrote:
>
> > --- gram rupert <gramario at tin.it> wrote:
> >
> >> Michael,
> >> I also am surprised about your discontent with
> the
> >> F-P catas. I have
> >> always heard well of them, and have not heard of
> any
> >> unpleasant
> >> occurrences (such as those unfortunate mishaps
> which
> >> occurred to
> >> Geminis from time to time). Is the hull material
> >> really so thin
> >> compared to other boats? In short, I am amazed.
> >> Is your dispute with F-P quality or with a
> dealer?
> >> Regards,
> >> Rupert.
> >>
> > Gram Rupert,
> > My major problem has been with F-P and
> the
> > quality of the boat and the lack of factory backup
> to
> > repair what was supposed to be a new boat. The
> hull
> > material is so thin that light comes thru even in
> > areas that have a material liner on the interior.
> The
> > fit and finish is poor and inconsistent. The
> dealer
> > has walked away from the boat and assumes no
> > responsibility at all. F-P even states that they
> do
> > not sell boats in the U.S. and that in itself is a
> > joke. I am working with an attorney but the U.S.
> court
> > system is slow and tedious and F-P denies that
> they do
> > business in the states so this is becoming a
> > nightmare.
> > Michael
> >> On 4 Jan 2008, at 09:49, ian.fisher at qedas.com
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Power Catamaran List,
> >>> I find that hard to believe,
> >>> I am the
> >>> owner of a Maryland 37 which has a
> >>> BCDE rating and I don't believe that
> >>> either. How can a
> >>> vessel that has no mechanical attachments
> between
> >> the
> >>> hulls
> >>> and the deck receive that kind of rating ? Also
> >>> the hull material is so thin
> >>> it seems that it would
> >>> disintegrate when it hit anything or would come
> >> apart.
> >>> Unhappy owner,
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> As Roger
> >>> Bingham says the RCD rating is mainly about
> >> stability. However
> >>> the UK MCA
> >>> requirements to commercially certify a boat for
> a
> >> Cat 2 (60
> >>> miles offshore
> >>> with 12 passengers) are very stringent and
> involve
> >> ensuring
> >>> that generally
> >>> the boat is 'fit (and safe) for purpose'. This
> >> includes an
> >>> out of water hull
> >>> and construction survey and examination of the
> >> actual
> >>> RCD certification data
> >>> from the factory tests as well as a host of
> other
> >>> checks and tests. She
> >>> passed with flying colours and there were only 5
> >>> minor problems - the main
> >>> one being height of the cockpit rails in the
> >>> transom without covers being
> >>> insufficient (easily fixed with removeable
> >>> safety line).
> >>>
> >>> Hope that reassures
> >>> you!
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>>
> >>> Ian
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