[PUP] Passagemaker attributes - pilothouse location

John Marshall johnamar1101 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 22 16:56:44 EST 2009


I'm not sure anyone would disagree that aft staterooms and "well aft  
of center of pitch" pilothouses are more comfortable when going uphill.

But that does have the drawback of reducing interior space in most  
cases.

I've got a mid-ship master stateroom which is OK in all but the  
biggest head seas, and quiet as a church, but there have been nasty  
uphill days when I'd love to have my pilot house further aft. Foreword  
guest cabin and guest head are uninhabitable in any kind of head sea.

But that said, than are many more days when its just fine. Like your  
KK48 friends, we pick our weather pretty carefully for comfort, and  
alter plans when we get surprised while out.

Not sure that would really change with a further-aft pilot house or  
berth. Trying to titrate the weather to your comfort level is pretty  
hard. You either go under all but extreme conditions (like the  
Dashews, and have a boat like Windhorse where everything is optimized  
toward sea comfort) or you wait for the best window, even if its a  
lengthy wait.

For us, the waits are just fine. Let the rag-baggers go out and puke  
blood in the windy weather.

John Marshall
Serendipity - Nordhavn 55
Sequim Bay, WA

On Jan 22, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Truelove39 at aol.com wrote:

> Not sure that this was brought up in the PPM discussion.
>
> Had an interesting discussion with a KK48 owner this morning. He was
> coveting the location of our PH (the helm chair is close to the  
> center of  pitch) and
> owners stateroom ('way aft). He was bemoaning his PH  and owner's  
> stateroom
> (both forward) and wishing he had a layout like ours  or the  
> Nordhavn 62 on the
> same dock. He allowed that after years of  uncomfortable passage- 
> making they
> now wait for weather - sometimes a long time.  Of course everything  
> is a
> compromise and I shared that having the master  stateroom above the  
> propeller and
> adhacent to the engine room was not perfect  either, although  
> neither Penny nor
> I have trouble sleeping there underway. I  confess I hadn't thought  
> of this
> before, even though it should have  been obvious.
>
> Any thoughts/experience with forward pilothouses and quarters?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> "Seahorse"
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