[PUP] Selene or Kadey Krogen?

[Ron Rogers]

Having seen a man almost thrown out (he hit and grabbed the door jamb) of a
KK42's pilothouse by a passing sportfisherman on the Severn River, I can
attest that they roll like crazy. Most KK42's have foam core from the
waterline up. Some have foam all the way to the keel. Late models are solid
fiberglass. They need a well-reinforced active stabilizer installation
costing about $40,000. Slow trawlers need large fin area stabilizers like
the Naiad 252 or equivalent. The wooden doors on older KK42's are not
adequate for ocean service and I am not interested in those who have
ventured-forth successfully with them. Otherwise they are seaworthy and
commodious boats with good storage and a basement. Goods placed in the
basement would have to be in waterproof wrapping. The vessels of its era did
not come equipped with ocean crossing in mind. They look great.

I have only seen one Selene up close and it was a 53 and beautiful. It had
twin Cummins engines. Unlike KK yachts (the newer ones are of even higher
quality) the Selenes do not appear to have a full displacement hull as the
after section flattens out. Some owners think that they are
full-displacement and Selene has made the forward hull "deeper." Selenes
also require adaptation for ocean voyaging, A key factor in both brands is
their range with existing fuel tanks at say 6 knots.

These are dramatically different boats. The Nordhavn 46 comes closer to the
KK42 conceptually, but is a proven world-circling full-displacement trawler
and they usually have either or both active and passive stabilization. Be
sure that crossing the Atlantic is in your future. You mention crossing as
deck cargo so that would subtract most of the North Atlantic, but the coast
of Europe is the Atlantic and the Med (Mare Nostrum) and is not tame. Any of
these boats would be comfortable as canal cruisers, although most would have
to fold down their masts.

Ron Rogers


-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Thorne

You are looking at two very different types of cruising, tropical and north
of 30. 2 very different boat configurations. Cockpits are not really that
useable, at sea they are cold and stinky, in port that are suntraps. If I
was going to sea like that I would opt Nordhavn or Kady K but both with
active stabilizers.