[PUP] Open owner's sites and particitation (or not) in the PUP community

[John Marshall]

To Ken's point, Nordhavn(PAE) has never sponsored or taken any kind of  
leadership role in the owners lists. It appears, as was once described  
to me, that it is company policy to NOT sponsor such lists so as to  
ensure a free flow of information and avoid implicit or explicit  
filtration of any kind.

There are several such lists, a main one open to all boat owners and  
company employees and management, and then some others that are  
specific to certain models.

Notably, at least one of those model-specific lists does not invite  
owners or employees of PAE (nor in general any industry providers)  
access either. Strictly an owners exchange.

The discussion of opening the lists is pretty much an annual event and  
can become quite spirited. Yet in every case, the majority of owners  
vote NO.

Nordhavn has no say in that discussion.

The most common argument is to keep the noise level down and keep the  
Nordhavn-specific technical level as high as possible.

Bottom line, right or wrong... the  fact that the lists remain closed  
is not a reflection of the company but of the boat owners who own the  
lists.

John Marshall
Serendipity - Nordhavn 5520
Sequim Bay, WA

On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Ken Williams wrote:

> John said: "... It is indeed unfortunate that some owners sites are
> closed..."
>
> I've been a Nordhavn owner for about 12 years, and active on the  
> Nordhavn
> owner's group throughout that time. The idea of opening up the group  
> to the
> public has been raised a few times. To my recollection, Nordhavn has  
> never
> commented on this topic beyond saying they would go along with  
> whatever the
> group wanted.
>
> It is the owners, and the list owner (which I believe is Scott  
> Strickland,
> not Nordhavn), who have kept the list "for owners only." I can't,  
> and don't,
> speak for the owners, but the primary sentiment I've heard expressed  
> is one
> of "don't fix it if it's not broken." The owners group has been a  
> valuable
> resource for the owners, and is working so well that I don't think  
> anyone
> wants to see it change. Were the list opened to the public it might  
> change
> the culture of the list, and it's not clear what the benefit (to the  
> owners)
> would be.
>
> Ken Williams
> Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68
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