[PUP] PPM Stability

[bob england]

Possibly, powerboats of our type are just so much more diverse than other
kinds of boats that a PPM would be difficult to define. One fellow wants a
bluewater boat that can also gunkhole and the next guy wants a shallow draft
boat that can go across oceans. The defining characteristic here is the abilty
to cross big water, and the owners acceptance of the compromizes required for
that.  Great big windows won't work, but they're great at the dock. Shallow
draft is good in the lake but is a liabilty offshore. It's kinda cool sitting
on top of a weddin cake boat in calm water, not so much fun in a beam sea. I
definitely agree that some companies are selling boats as the do all end all
of ocean capable passagemakers, and maybe they are that, I don't know myself,
but lots of other less hyped boats are out there doin it to. I do think that
the compromizes we make for the PPM should err toward the ocean capable side.
I would not know about 1&1/8 ounce loads (that's a rather large bore isn't it)
as I shoot a .410 custom shop Winchester lever gun at birds. I would also
disagree that springers are the oldest hunting dog breed. Setters hold that
distinction, of which I have owned a bunch, and pointers, brits, shorthairs,
wirehairs, etc, I was a birdhunting guide for 15 years, and am very
opinionated about this (fascinating) stuff. I would love to discuss boats,
birds and bourbon with George in person some day.> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008
18:08:13 -0800> From: design at georgebuehler.com> To:
passagemaking-under-power at lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PUP] PPM Stability> >
Bob you silver tongued thang Ok, I'll answer this but I ain't getting > into
regular postings. > You folks need to realize this whole SUBJECT is
ridiculous. Ya know > why? because there is NO SUCH THING as a PPM. And the
reason for that > is there are many many different ideas about what people
want to do > cruising. Each one has a boat that to be "ideal" must meet
different > criteria, and few overlap to being ideal for something else and
not one > of them is "better" than another one because each specialized idea
is > just that; a specialized idea. And when that specialized idea is put in >
a different situation than what it is ideal for then suddenly it isn't >
ideal, but often can do it. IDLEWILD was ideal for the start of the > trip. I
suspect she was pretty good doing the NW Passage too because > she could run
up on ice and was less likely to get frozen in. But I'm > not brave enough for
that record making passage she made to Australia, > even though shallow light
boats, when handled competently, are very > safe. The Vikings proved that one
1,000 years ago. Me, I want brute > strength in inclement situations.> Do you
see? Nobody can say they have the "PPM." All they can say > is they have a PPM
for what their intended use is. So you must decide > what type of cruising you
want to do then pick a design planned out for > that use.> Far to many
designers and production factories push pure hype that > what they do is the
Cat's Ass. From my point of view many are actually > dangerous in many
situations, and almost all are ridiculously > complicated and expensive.. But
to each his own. Hate seeing folks get > sucked in to things I KNOW are so
often an overpriced mistake but it > ain't my bidness....> OK, that's all I
got to say about that. Now I got to get back > reading up about shotguns and
bird dogs. Did you know that English > Springers like my boy Bodacious are the
oldest domesticated hunting > dog? And full chokes and 7/8 oz loads explode
clay targets as good as > the normal 1-1//8 oz and IM chokes but of course
require a more exact > aim. Fascinating stuff!> > George> > bob england
wrote:> > >"go boff the neighbors dog" classic Beuhler. And yes, that was
toned down. I> >for one am honored to have George post on this list. Maybe if
we offend him> >enough (it'll take a lot) he will continue to write. His boats
have Ben (pun> >intended) the world over and continue to do so today. He
advocates building> >cheap but capable and has designs that are proven to be
cheap and CAPABLE. His> >boats may not be featured in Norhavn iIlustrated
(passagemaker), but they are> >still out there quietly getting the job done.
Geoge Buehler would be a great> >help in designing the PPM, and along with our
other illustrious contributors,> >could lend credence to our cause.>
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