[PUP] PPM Stability

[Jim Leishman]

George...

Let them design the perfect Passagemaker and price it out, get it built,
market it, sell it and then warranty it.

You can't be more upset than I me over some of these guy's postings.

Success - isn't without its price, you become a target for these guys.

Don't let them get you down George. I would have give up twenty years ago when
our second Nordhavn 46 caught fire due to our faulty design.

Hang it there George...

Very Best Regards,

Jim Leishman








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[mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces at lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of
George Buehler
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:08 PM
To: Passagemaking Under Power List
Subject: [PUP] PPM Stability

  Bob you silver tongued thang Ok, I'll answer this but I ain't getting
into regular postings.
  You folks need to realize this whole SUBJECT is ridiculous.  Ya know
why?  because there is NO SUCH THING as a PPM.  And the reason for that
is there are many many different ideas about what people want to do
cruising.   Each one has a boat that to be "ideal" must meet different
criteria, and few overlap to being ideal for something else and not one
of them is "better" than another one because each specialized idea is
just that; a specialized idea.  And when that specialized idea is put in
a different situation than what it is ideal for then suddenly it isn't
ideal, but often can do it.  IDLEWILD was ideal for the start of the
trip.  I suspect she was pretty good doing the NW Passage too because
she could run up on ice and was less likely to get frozen in.  But I'm
not brave enough for that record making passage she made to Australia,
even though shallow light boats, when handled competently, are very
safe.  The Vikings proved that one 1,000 years ago.   Me, I want brute
strength in inclement situations.
    Do you see?   Nobody can say they have the "PPM."  All they can say
is they have a PPM for what their intended use is.  So you must decide
what type of cruising you want to do then pick a design planned out for
that use.
    Far to many designers and production factories push pure hype that
what they do is the Cat's Ass.  From my point of view many are actually
dangerous in many situations, and almost all are ridiculously
complicated and expensive..  But to each his own.  Hate seeing folks get
sucked in to things I KNOW are so often an overpriced mistake but it
ain't my bidness....
   OK, that's all I got to say about that.  Now I got to get back
reading up about shotguns and bird dogs.  Did you know that English
Springers like my boy Bodacious are the oldest domesticated hunting
dog?  And full chokes and 7/8 oz loads explode clay targets as good as
the normal 1-1//8 oz and IM chokes but of course require a more exact
aim.  Fascinating stuff!

George

bob england wrote:

>"go boff the neighbors dog" classic Beuhler. And yes, that was toned down. I
>for one am honored to have George post on this list. Maybe if we offend him
>enough (it'll take a lot) he will continue to write. His boats have Ben (pun
>intended) the world over and continue to do so today. He advocates building
>cheap but capable and has designs that are proven to be cheap and CAPABLE.
His
>boats may not be featured in Norhavn iIlustrated (passagemaker), but they
are
>still out there quietly getting the job done. Geoge Buehler would be a great
>help in designing the PPM, and along with our other illustrious
contributors,
>could lend credence to our cause.
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