[PUP] top five boats

[Robert Miller]

Thanks John,

Nordhavn has been at the top of our list since we started looking.  I
believe I am getting the response that I needed from folks that have
journeyed down this road before me.  All the information that I have rec'd
has been good and positive.  Sonya and I look forward to meeting some of you
in the near future.  Thank you for your input.


Kindest Regards,

Robert Miller

Imagecom, Inc.
3729 East 82nd Place
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74137
robert at imagecominc.com
918-704-8233
918-494-0012   FAX



> From: John Marshall <johnamar1101 at gmail.com>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:53:05 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [PUP] top five boats
> 
> Per the comment below, it would be interesting if creating a list
> that more than one person would agree to was a doable task. But don't
> hold your breath.
> 
> IMHO, unless you are vastly experienced in passagemaking, a new
> participant can't possibly make any headway in this discussion until
> they exhaustively research the current production boats, whether you
> are buying new or a boat a couple of years old or less. (Note: It's
> routine for some customers of these volume mfg to put their boats up
> for sale with only a few hundred to a thousand hours on the engine.
> You'll find plenty of them out there. That's another topic.)
> 
> Interesting story... recently, I had my Nordhavn 55 in Anacortes, WA
> when Steve and Linda Dashew came in for a few days on their way south
> from Prince William Sound. We started talking. He was clearly
> thinking about what it would take to volume produce a practically
> priced boat. He spent a lot of time roaming around my N55. Then asked
> a lot of questions. Roll and pitch moments, stability curves, etc.
> Most of which I wasn't smart enough to answer. Also my observations
> in handling boat in head seas, beam and following seas. But I got the
> drift. Then he gave me a long tour of Sea Horse. Which was a
> different world. Bottom line... I learned more about passagemakers
> that day than I had during all my previous research and experience.
> 
> I now better understand the difference between a boat whose natural
> element is the middle of the big blue sea, and a boat designed to
> occasionally venture into the big blue sea.
> 
> That said, my wife and I live aboard and we want the luxuries of a
> high-end home. We consider it a really big adventure to travel north
> to Anchorage or from Seattle down to Mexico, maybe to the Caribbean
> some day, with our travel timing completely dictated by comfortable
> weather and season. Part of that time is on the hook, part in
> marinas. I'm very happy with my N55 for that kind of use, and if I do
> get caught out in something unexpected, I know I'm just going to be
> uncomfortable but still safe.
> 
> But if I was buying a boat primarily to circumnavigate, or live for
> long periods in very remote places, even places where concern for
> safety is a worry, live exclusively on the hook, cross the hurricane/
> typhoon tracks (hard to avoid that if you circumnavigate),  I'd put
> Steve's boat at the very, very top of my list. It's ugly on the
> outside (doesn't look like it's a yacht, so it won't attract thieves)
> but beautiful inside, if you like the great room concept. There is no
> exterior washing or waxing required, and if you ding it against
> something, just hit it with the grinder. But its really hard to find
> a marina that can handle the length.
> 
> That said, for my cruising plans, and my far smaller budget, the N55
> suits me far better. Number two on my list was the Krogen 58, but we
> couldn't quite stretch that far financially. Third was the Krogen 48
> Whaleback (few really good examples were on the market -- its out of
> production). Fourth was the Nordhavn 47, of which there were several
> nearly new ones in brokerage when I bought. If I hadn't fallen into
> an unusual deal on the N55, I'd own a used N47 today.
> 
> John Marshall
> N55-Serendipity
> Sequim Bay, WA
> 
> On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:37 AM, Tommy Terrific wrote:
> 
>> It will be interesting to see how many boats make the "top five" list.
>> TT
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