[PUP] Quality of crafts in general - radar -

John Holbrook john_r_holbrook at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 19 20:44:11 EST 2007


Hi Hannu, 
 
You left out the cost of having the spare wiring connected up.
Plus the spare wiring would be the same age as the original wiring and have
the same chance of failure as the original wire... it may have failed before
you connect it or if it has not it would have a lesser life span than a brand
new wire. 
 
You undoubtedly have more experience than me but I can"t agree
with your logic. What makes far more sense to me is a. get the electrical
design right at the time of building, b. use good quality components, c. use
good quality labour, d. label the wiring and have correct wiring diagrams and
e. good access. 
 
 
Cheers
John 


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Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:17:53
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From: hannu venermo <hanermo at a2002sl.com>
Subject: [PUP] Quality of
crafts in general - radar -
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I4m really glad my post got some interest.
I have 2 sample tests re: wiring.
Your masthead lights fail. Your front winch
electrical cabling (or 
bowhruster) fails.
You need a new cable to any one or
all of these pieces of equipment.

Question 1: How long will it take to
install ? 1.b. At what cost ?
Please quote, everyone, from your experiences
and craft, what it would 
take to install a new cable up the masthead and or
to the bow winch or 
bowthruster.
This is  at the boatyard, what about at
anchor, making way, in bvi, st. 
martin etc. where you have to wait/get parts
by fedex etc ?

I suspect or suggest that in the US

    * Masthead: 1040 $ -
200$ cable plus 840$ (8 hours, 200$ in bits)
    * Power to bow: 2240 $ - 1200
$ cable plus 840 $ installation (8
      hours, 200$ in bits)

The extra cost
in originally installed redundant cables would have been 
300-500 $. The cost
in installing dual cable or single cable, and the 
fixtures (clips, ties,
mounts, screws, bedding etc.) are nearly 
equivalent at build or refit time.
The labor cost is nearly identical.

Difference is 600% to 700% at boatyard in
the US !
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