[PUP] Getting experience, was Medical Training

Sonaia Maryon-Davis mygoleen@gmail.com
Sun Apr 1 01:14:15 EST 2007


Hi Scott,

Just the idea of having a situation of MOB with only two on board of a 50
tones and 20 meters long boat and one of them is in the water, makes my
stomach goes around in fear, pain and panic.
If I lived near you I would be happy to be a volunteer for your
experiment,but I don't.
I wish you good luck with it and PLEASE let me know the results/lessons
learned because as it stands in my head at the moment, in a situation like
that and specially if it happens in a agitated sea at night for instance,
it will be most likely a 'kiss good bye' to the other, unfortunately.


Sonaia Hermida
NH5729

On 3/31/07, Scott E. Bulger <scottebulger@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Ken, your question is the perfect opening for something I wanted to
> discuss.
>
> Often you hear "he didn't have the necessary experience" when discussing
> some event after the fact.  Or, you need more experience to deal with
> these
> conditions.
>
> Well, how do you get experience?  You DO it.  Twelve foot seas, never been
> in them, well the only way I know to say I have experience in 12 foot seas
> is to BE in 12 foot seas.  You can either have them come up when your at
> sea
> or go to sea when the conditions exist.  Then the press release will say
> "he
> was out in conditions beyond his experience".  It's a paradox?
>
> I have some experience with gaining experience.  30 years (and 50lbs) ago
> I
> flew Hang gliders.  There is a procedure called a "Wire Launch" where
> three
> people hold the wires of the Hang glider because the wind is so powerful
> it
> will launch you before your ready.  The pilot tells the wire launchers
> when
> to release and then he or she launches, communication happens from both
> the
> pilot and the wiremen.  You gain experience by starting when you really
> don't need wiremen and progressing in increasing winds until you are ready
> for the big stuff, which we called an "Elevator Ride", when they release
> the
> wires you explode off the hill straight into the sky, quite fun
> really.  Ok
> enough reminiscing.
>
> So for boating, there are many things I want my wife and I to gain
> experience in that I would think others would benefit from.  I'd like to
> take my Nordhavn 40 and my Camano 31 out on Lake Washington on a windy day
> and practice Man Overboard Recoveries.  This is a potentially dangerous
> activity and would benefit by having support personal to assist (and also
> learn).  I'm not aware of any class I can take where I will gain this
> experience first hand?  Bob Austin referred me to a sailing resource where
> they tested MOB recovery systems.  West Marine paid some money and they
> evaluated a number of different products.  I have no interest in
> evaluating
> different products, but rather gaining the experience.  So I'm going to
> contact the authors of the story and see if they will share their process
> and procedures with me so I can benefit from their experience and lessons
> learned.  Then I'm going to solicit names of people that would like to
> participate in a day long series of recovery attempts and see if we can
> put
> together a collection of people that share the goal of doing this.  I'll
> contact the USCG and see if any special approval is required.  If anyone
> has
> done anything like this in the past, please share your experience so we
> can
> benefit.
>
> The second thing I want to do is deploy my sea anchor.  Ideally this is
> something best done in big winds, but like the wirelaunch, just doing it
> in
> controlled conditions will be very helpful.  So, after we get the MOB
> event
> done, I'll see if we can do another version for the sea anchor.
>
> Anyone interested please contact me off list at scottebulger@comcast.net
>
> If you would like to share ideas on this please feel free to do so.  Oh,
> in
> case your thinking this should be on the T&T list, here is why I think
> it's
> appropriate for here - We are talking about the kinds of things you need
> to
> do to prepare for passagemaking.  As a coastal boater should I have this
> experience, absolutely!  But as a passagemaking boater, the importance of
> this procedure is heightened by the fact there are only two people on the
> boat and if someone goes in the water, there is likely on one else to
> help,
> so we will use that scenario as the premise for the exercise.  So, it's
> decidedly appropriate for PUP!  At least in my opinion!
>
> Scott Bulger, Alanui N40II, Seattle WA
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