GL: Brunswick Landing Pricing & Venice Water Nazi

Thu Mar 12 16:06:44 EDT 2009

As I  mentioned below, he is not boarding or searching. He looks for the 
state  sticker, then asks from the dock or his boat if you have a state 
registration. I  had just arrived from offshore. Venice is a popular entry point. He 
absolutely  does not care how long you are going to be in Florida. I have heard 
of people  convincing him that they will state register at the next stop and be 
let go.  Lots of "yes sirs" and "thank you sirs" . What anyone believes might 
be  happening or believes what law applies is not a valid  position. History 
does not lie. This is what the dude did.  

Doc

In a message dated 3/12/2009 2:45:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
valhalla360 at yahoo.com writes:

Actuall I believe this is covered by the interstate commerce act  which 
basically forces states to accept each others rules in regard to  interstate 
transporation. If your home state accepts  CG documentation as enough, I don't 
believe Florida has  the authority to override Federal Law. Of course if you are in 
the  state for 6 months, an arguement could be made that you are no longer  
transiting, but unless he has prior reason to believe you have been in  the 
state longer than reasonable to transit, he does not have reasonable  cause to 
search your paperwork.

--- On Thu, 3/12/09,  Seasalt007 at aol.com <Seasalt007 at aol.com>  wrote:

From:  Seasalt007 at aol.com <Seasalt007 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: GL:  Brunswick Landing Pricing & Venice Water Nazi
To:  valhalla360 at yahoo.com, great-loop at lists.samurai.com
Date: Thursday,  March 12, 2009, 2:04 PM

I am one of those who have experienced the Venice  officer first hand. As far 
as I know, and certainly in my case,  he did not search anything.. It was not 
a shake down. He simply  pointed out that according to Florida Law  a boat 
must be  registered in some state. If you wanted to argue the Documented vs  
state thing he would cut you off and say that he didn't care what your  home 
state law was. You were in Florida now. If you continued to  protest or become 
arrogant you got a ticket. I never thought that I  would be defending this guy, 
but in all honesty he was not a crook. He  was overzealous in enforcing Florida 
Law. If what he was doing was  against Florida Law, there were enough 
complaints to find this out  years ago.

Doc
Punta Gorda

In a message dated 3/12/2009 1:14:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
valhalla360 at yahoo.com writes:

Brunswick Landing: Obviously if you want to haul out it  sounds like you need
to shrinkwrap. The original request sounded  like it was just for a slip for a
month which is what was relayed  in which case $11/ft with no shrinkwrap is
still  correct.

Venice Water Nazi: Unfortuantely, the paragraph  below has some flawed logic.
In many states, the Coast Guard  Registration is all that is required, so the
name and hailing  port are the equivilent of a license plate. So what he is
doing  is the equivelent of pulling over a car with a michigan  license
plate because they don't have a florida license plate.  From my understanding,
he is (was?) pulling over boats for no  reason and then going thru them until
he found something. I would  think the "protection from unreasonable search 
and
seziure"  should protect us from these types of shake downs, but for  some
reason boaters accept it. The only reason I can think is  there are enough 
laws
on the books (some conflicting with each  other), that if you annoy the 
officer
they can always find some  reason to hand out a ticket, so the best course is
to keep quite  and don't annoy the officer. Clearly this officer is (was?)  
not
using good judgement in choosing which and
how to enforce  the laws. As such he should be pulled up short. I don't
believe  for a minute that there was nothing the polititians could do about  
it.
I suspect they were enjoying the large fines he was handing  out to
non-constituants. I worked in government long enough to  know that problem
people may not get fired, but they can be moved  somewhere where they are
harmless.

It is amusing that we  criticize this officer for enforcing the regulation of
boats, but  would be outraged if the same officer turned a blind eye  towards
people driving around in cars with no
license  plates...

Mike & Tammy
Valhalla II
Currently:Port  Royal,  SC
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