I wonder if any members on the Loop from Chicago down the Mississippi have had any run in with them. Apparently they have been very successful and creating havoc. http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2007/04/040107_2.html -- Live Long and Prosper Capt. Len Susman, retired trikini23@trikini.com What's New http://www.trikini.com/whatn.htm